This is the episode where Art of Holiness (aka, Pierce and Carolyn) get to chat about Carolyn new book When Women Lead. And this is where we discovered that even if a person writes the book, they still find it hard to talk about the book! So listen to this, but then … get the book, so you can get all the good out of this study in women’s leadership. And thank you for all the ways you support and participate in The Art of Holiness.